President Donald Trump on Thursday (April 30) said "probably" when asked whether he would consider pulling out U.S. troops from Italy and Spain, a day after announcing that Washington was looking at reducing the number of military personnel in Germany.

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1. U.S. PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP AND OFFICIALS IN OVAL OFFICE

2. (SOUNDBITE)(English) U.S. PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP, SAYING IN EXCHANGE WITH REPORTER:

REPORTER: "You talked about possibly pulling out some troops of Germany. Would you be considering the same thing for Spain and Italy? I mean, they haven't been exactly on board."

TRUMP: "Yeah, probably, I probably will. Why shouldn't I, look, why shouldn't I? Italy has not been of any help to us. And Spain has been horrible. Absolutely horrible, you know it's NATO. It's not even the fact that they're bad. It's one thing they said nicely or they said, 'okay, we'll help, the help's a little slow', but the level, and we helped them with Ukraine. You know, they made a mess out of Ukraine, a total mess. And we help them with Ukraine. And Ukraine has nothing to do, you know, we have, we're an ocean apart. It has to do with them. It's like for them, it's their front door. We help them. And Biden gave $350 billion, which was insane. That's one of the reasons the war went on."

3. REPORTERS LOOKING ON

4. (SOUNDBITE)(English) U.S. PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP, SAYING:

"But when we needed them, they were not there. We have to remember that. And so if we ever have a big one, because we didn't need any help with Iran, we had Iran right from the first day it was over, it was over. And now it's even worse. We're so locked and loaded, if we want to do it. But we didn't need the help. And to a certain extent I asked them I didn't need their help. And I said, 'Yeah, we'd love to have you help' because I wanted to see if they do it. And they, in all cases they said, 'we don't want to get involved.' And, you know, the amazing thing is they use the Strait of Hormuz. We don't, we don't use it. We don't need it. We have a lot of oil. Okay, well, wait a minute. And they use it. We don't."

5. TRUMP SPEAKING

6. (SOUNDBITE)(English) U.S. PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP, SAYING:

"And you would have thought they would have said 'we would love to help you,' but they didn't, which I think was worse, and Germany. I mean, he's doing a terrible job. He's got immigration problems, he's got energy problems, he's got problems of all kind. And he's got a big problem with Ukraine because they're in that mess. And he criticized me for doing the whole thing with Iran. But I said, would you like to have a nuclear weapon in the hands of Iran? He said, 'no, I don't.' I said, 'Well, then I guess I'm right.' He didn't have an answer to that. The bottom line is for this world, for our country, but certainly for Israel, the Middle East and Europe much closer. You cannot let Iran have a nuclear weapon. And if you agree that Iran can't have a nuclear weapon, which most people agree, almost everybody, it should have been done a long time ago. But if you agree they can't have a nuclear weapon, then what I did has been executed perfectly because our military has decimated them."